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Torve Jackpot! Fight Night in Photos
You may have seen a few posts back the exclusive interview with Kelvin Torve, whose "accidental" issue of the 24 jersey in 1990 caused a minor stir among Met fans and a major event in team history when viewed through the numeric prism. Photographic evidence of the event was difficult to come by, to say the least -- even a thorough re-examination of Mets Inside Pitch issues from 1990 produced nothing.
That was before MBTN user TommieCleon (aka Paul C) stepped up to the plate, and just like Kelvin Torve on Aug. 9, 1990, smashed one off the wall. Pictured
here are videocaps from that historic occassion -- not only one of the few games Torve spent wearing No. 24, and not only his best moment -- his pinch double drove in 2 runs including the game-winner and made him a hero -- but for the lengthy, violent, bench-clearing brawl that occurred only an inning before.
The brawl was precipitated when Phillies pitcher Pat Combs returned fire to Dwight Gooden, then hitting. Gooden earlier in the game had hit Phillies Dickie Thon and Tommy Herr with pitches. Tension between the Mets and Phillies had dated to a year before when Darryl Strawberry and Darren Daulton tangled.
Gooden charged Combs after the pitch struck him in the leg in the 5th inning. "You go with your first reaction and mine was to get him," Gooden later recounted. The ensuing melee, a "Pier 6 Brawl" as Bob Murphy might describe it, lasted nine minutes and halted play for 20. Strawberry went after Daulton but was interrupted by Von Hayes and they went at it. An obscure Phillie reliever we'd come to know, Dennis Cook, was yanked from the pack and thrown to the ground by umpire Joe West, and then he really got mad. Met outfielder Kevin McReynolds wrenched his back in the scrum. In all six players (Strawberry, Gooden and Tim Tuefel for the Mets; and Combs, Daulton and Cook for the Phils) were ejected.
Expect this game to be referenced often as talk heats up of the Mets and Phillies renewing hostilities this season.
As for Torve's role in the number controversy, Paul has this to say:
Based on materials in the public record concerning the Mets issuance of
uniform #24, I think that present management is not inclined to retire
the number. Of course, this is somewhat obvious based on the simple
fact that the Wilpons still haven't retired the number in the almost 30
years that they've owned the ballclub. Still, Kelvin Torve might have
been a guinea pig in a calculated ploy to gauge public sentiment over
the reissuance of #24. Perhaps there is a better explanation for Torve
as #24, but to me, the notion that either Charlie Samuels or Met
management forgot about the significance of reissuing the number is
simply implausible, no matter how momentary this alleged lapse in
memory was.
The Mets solution to this uni controversy appears to be a compromise;
keeping the uniform mostly in limbo is consistent with their own view
against retiring the number. By allowing the uni to be reissued to a
special player, (e.g. Rickey Henderson, a first ballot HOF'er and one
of the two or three dozen best players of all-time), Met brass appears
to be minimizing instances of fan disappointment. After all, one would
think that the benefits of acquiring that special player would outweigh
whatever negativity might arise from having that player wear #24.
As you admire this awesome collection of historic Met bloodshed which Paul was cool enough to provide, give some thought to his points above: What should the Mets do with 24? How cool was this brawl? And how awesome do the numbers look without the awful drop shadow?
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Pretty good Tidewater
Great Flashback
Thanks
Kelvin Torve
Yes--
Kelvin's recall of events (that he wore 24 thru the end of the homestand before going on the road) checks out with the "official" record we've been able to verify. Mays was and is a strange case,. I was doing some research the other day when I came across mentions that, although he was being paid 50K to be a coach for the Mets in 1976, he hadn't in fact showed up at spring training that year. I'd love to see your photo, you can shoot it to mbtn01 ---+ at -- gmail (dot) Com.
His one and only advocate in the org I think was Mrs. payson who wasn't much use to Mays after she died.
I think it'd be a nice gesture and provide some closure on the whole affair to retire 24 for Mrs. Payson.
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